NEW DNA POLICY 09/04/08
The department has a form that they will want you to sign so that they can buccal swab you for a DNA sample. We have been negotiating over this issue with IPRA and the City attorney for the past six months. Our concerns are many, including but not limited to, whether or not your DNA samples will be put into CODIS? Will DNA be taken only when police are involved in a shooting, or will it be used whenever the department feels like using it? If you do not touch an offender’s weapon will the department still take your DNA? The department form states “I understand that these samples will be presented to the Illinois State Police Forensic Center, or other appropriate laboratories for analysis.” We don’t even know where your DNA sample will be sent. There are many other questions which need to be answered, but the department apparently does not want to provide any answers.
There are two very important points:
1. We have been in talks with the City and their attorney and we have never agreed to anything related to DNA testing with respect to our officers. Now the department backdoors the union and hopes to trick you into signing a form voluntarily.
2. If the department wants a DNA sample from an offender they have to go to court and get a court order for that sample to be taken. They must prove to the Judge that there is a need for that sample. This department will not give us the same rights that an offender has?
Do not voluntarily give up your rights, DO NOT SIGN THE FORM. Buccal Swab Consent Form If there is a request for your DNA, call the union immediately. We are on call twenty- four hours a day, seven days a week. We will send you an attorney so that your rights are protected. For the department to circumvent the union and the negotiating process, and ask you to voluntarily sign a form and allow the illegal intrusion, is just another attempt at union busting.
Nothing on our site(PB&PA) concerning this matter.
14 comments:
I will let Monique Bond extract a sample.
The Keesing Bandit says---
I'll leave them a little DNA but not from where they expected it.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
This is a serious matter and all we get is comments from the peanut gallery! Still, made me laugh.I got yer' DNA Right Here!
I think the unions better get some help on this one- the ACLU has defended cops - rarely - but it will.
The Patriot Act opened the door on exceptions to unreasonable and seizure and here we go!
The Patriot Act opened the door on exceptions to unreasonable and seizure and here we go!
BULLSHIT! Nice try but absolute bullshit.
Please back up what you say about the Patriot Act. Specifically, und what exception regarding search and seizure do you think this falls?
I value your opinions, but do not want you falling for something the left wing media would like us all to believe.
Wow, I guess the toe sucking cop that retired years ago is lucky. With this DNA they would have busted him.
10+ years ago the military tried this.
They said 'it was to allow them to identify your remains if something happened'.
This was supposed to prevent anymore "Unknown Soldiers" being added to the monument.
Does anyone remember when a family sued to see if the remains from Viet Nam were their relative? They were not but the monument was forever changed.
Lots of people fought the military and were then denied reenlistment. The records were then used in at least 2 rape trials in Japan in the mid 90's.
I don't know if DNA has been used to ID anyone in a combat zone to date, but I also haven't heard of any unidentified remains either.
if the city blows me long enough i may make a deposit into their mouth, no questions asked.
Anonymous said....
The Patriot Act opened the door on exceptions to unreasonable and seizure and here we go!
Fri Sep 05, 05:07:00 PM
My response was....
BULLSHIT! Nice try but absolute bullshit.
Sorry for any confusion.
OT - If anyone can light a fire under whoever runs the Chalkie t-shirt website, could you, pls?
http://chalkie2016.blogspot.com
Looks like it's been a while now since someone maintained it.
There is a great link on suntimes.com. Go to the section where Obama says "my Muslim faith". The moderator feels obliged to correct him and say "Christian faith".
Where is the truth?
I don't think they are talking about swabbing everyone, just elimination swabs from those entering crime scene and/or touching something at the scene thereby leaving their dna there.
Since there have been NO talks with supervisors and the city over this issue, that might be why it isn't on the sergeants website??
OT- Chalkie T-Shirts are stocked at AJ Uniform on 111th and Fairfield right next to the Patromen's Credit Union.Saw them there Friday.
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