Thursday, October 01, 2009

SGTS SAY NO

By a 92 percent vote, Chicago Police sergeants are refusing to swallow a new five-year contract that could have freezed their pay through 2012 and mandated physical fitness requirement tied to new promotions.

John Pallohusky, president of the Chicago Police Sergeants Association, said the vote counted today was 926-to-84 after the Daley administration attempted to play hardball.

In exchange for allowing sergeants to retire at age 55 with premium health benefits, the city demanded that sergeants agree to a pay freeze that would only thaw if an independent arbitrator awarded a pay raise to the Fraternal Order of Police.
Sun Times

Most captains and approximately half the lieutenants would be eligible to retire at 55 during the next three years. I would have to believe that was the driving motivation behind their vote to accept the cities ultimatum. Sergeants on the other hand had a couple hundred eligible and only 84 voted to accept. I think we are no worse off by rejecting this offer.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Boy that wasn't such a bright decision. In tough economic times we are being like the auto unions when Detroit was going through there economic problems. Now the auto workers are on a downward fall that aint gonna stop. I voted for the cities proposal. What's wrong with supervisors getting in shape and being a good example for the troops. Pay freeze, come on folks we are lucky we have the great jobs that we have. You gotta admit the pay and present benefits ain't so bad when you look at the options out there.Lots of folks are suffering unemployment. Man its too bad we can't see the forest because of the trees. I don't want to sound like a company man but right is right and wrong is wrong.

The Best Sgt. in 189

SECOND CITY SARGE said...

God I hope this guy is pulling our chains.

Anonymous said...

sgt with 25plus yrs in, I am stunned that the huge payout benefit, that would far beat out a very tiny cash raise, was rejected by the majority...oh wait what the fuck was i thinking, if only the physically fit sgts could be promoted to Lt then probably only 85 to 100 could be eligible. So young fatty sgts I pray the arbitrator goes with the fitness standard and I will not be retired, but I will be laughing my ass off and taking the next Lt. exam! So young fools you win this battle, but I bet you have just lost so much more. Good to have senority and enjoy the circus. Old school but not brain dead and I still got what it takes to get over a 6ft wall and take an offender down without help from deadbeats

SECOND CITY SARGE said...

A huge payout? For who? 200 sergeants in the next 3 years? Then what?
The offer from the city had not one guarantee in it.
This has nothing to do with anyone having a fat ass. It has everything to do with a city that has never negotiated in good faith. I would rather negotiate and get nothing then to lay down so a handful of people would receive a "huge financial benefit". And since when has the city ever offered a huge financial benefit to anyone that works for a living? Don't blame the younger sergeants, this is a classic divide and conquer technique used by the city. The city could have had an understanding with CPSA just as they did with FOP. Why didn't they?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
......and I still got what it takes to get over a 6ft wall and take an offender down without help from deadbeats

Thu Oct 01, 07:53:00 PM

I have to wonder at that. Makes me wonder if you were ever out there doing it in the first place. I myself have 20 years on and have the aches, pains and scars from running and gunning as I am sure a lot of other senior sergeants do. And thanks to the wonderful IOD doctors we have to deal with that push us through to get us back on the street as soon as they can instead of giving us the best possible treatment we deserve, there are a lot of members that would be screwed by the physical standards. The department wanted us out there doing our best and through the years I gave it to them. Unfortunately the city didn't do their best to provide for our well being.....

Anonymous said...

there won't be another lt test
future lt's will pass a power test and selected like the merit captains

Anonymous said...

The Best Sgt. in 189.

An oxymoron spoken by a moron.

Anonymous said...

sour grapes by a few selfish assholes.
fuck off

Anonymous said...

"What's wrong with supervisors getting in shape and being a good example for the troops."

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I WORKED in a SHIT district all my life .. for 24 years.

I have 3 pins in my legs due to a horrific IOD back in the 1980's.

Do you think I could pass a physical???

I am not a "fat ass".

I worked for a living.

Do you think I would be given consideration sir?

FUCK YOU you scum sucking company man. Make these corrupt exempt assholes take a physical first.

Anonymous said...

how many of you wish phil cline
terry hillard were back leading the CPD they were the real police
detectives , gangs & narcotic officers while going up the ranks

Anonymous said...

I have been a Sgt. for 11 years, and this union has not done a fucking thing for us. They negotiated this contract that we then rejected. I want my real score from the last Lt. exam. We still have nothing. No contract, no leadership, no scores, just a bunch of assholes sitting around drinking cheap beer and spending our hard earned union dollars.

itsallegit said...

To all the company men the company ain't your daddy and it don't love or care for you.
To the person who thinks we are"lucky" to have this job maybe you are(clout baby) but i beat out 50,000 people to get on and made rank legit and took this job so I would not get layed off like I did in previous employment.
To the 6ft wall jumper/perp taker down guy B.S. you ain't police your a supervisor. Have a nice day.

Anonymous said...

I have been a Sgt. for 11 years, and this union has not done a fucking thing for us. They negotiated this contract that we then rejected.

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YOU are a moron!!!!

The union DID NOT negotiate this contract you DUMB asshole.

This was the city's offer.. the board rejected it 12 to 1.
Is your head THAT far up your ass??????

For a guy with 11 years as a sergeant you must be a pretty pathetic dumbshit.

I was a sergeant's board member years ago and quit because I got sick of STUPID whining bitches like you that don't have a fucking clue.

I had other things to do like work 2 other side jobs, go to school and take care of my family but I became a board member because NO ONE ELSE wants to take the job including yourself.

If you think you can click your heels 3 times like the whore in the Wizard of Oz and make all your fuckin' dreams come true, then go to at least 50% of the general meeting and get yourself elected.
Don't worry, no one else will run against you because no one else wants the job.

I can't wait to retire from this job and leave this city to get away from ignorant stupid coppers like yourself.

Anonymous said...

time to out the captains and lts
if we want to get a good contract
they sold us out
we work for our .75 a day the merit captains don't
a few lts do
we have to bring this information to an arbitrator
no field lt on the street and we should receive out of grade pay
cfd is 100 % manned everyday

Anonymous said...

Dear former board member,
Your supposed to take care of your family, you coward and quitter.

Anonymous said...

Dear former board member,
Your supposed to take care of your family, you coward and quitter.

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Eat shit cunt.

The point I am trying to make, in which you are OBVIOUSLY too stupid to understand is that being a union member takes up a LOT of time if you wish to do the job RIGHT and to the BEST of one's ability. I did that and got nothing for it but bitching by feeble minded twits like yourself.

I chose not to run again for another term so that DOES NOT make me a coward or a quitter.
Did your pathetic LAZY ass step up to the plate and attempt to take my place when I completed a successful term? NO!!
So shut the fuck up you useless, stupid cunt.

Do yourself a favor and take a class in labor relations and perhaps you'll learn something. However, I'm sure you'll say you are to busy to go back to school. You hypocritical lazy punk.

Anonymous said...

Bravo to all the Sgts who stood tall and rejected this shit contract offer!! I applaud you and myself!! To all of the self centered, self rightous, take care of "Me" sgts who voted for this shit contract....Go get a par form and fill it out if you have any fuckin balls....WE DONT NEED YOU AROUND HERE!

Anonymous said...

"The Best Sgt. in 189"

Jody put the computer away!!! Remember in 2007 when are contract expired? Things were not like this. Economy was good....Yes? Now go say a prayer to Daleys shrine you have in your basement....you know the one...the room that people are not supposed to go in.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
time to out the captains and lts
if we want to get a good contract
they sold us out
we work for our .75 a day the merit captains don't
a few lts do
we have to bring this information to an arbitrator
no field lt on the street and we should receive out of grade pay
cfd is 100 % manned everyday

Fri Oct 02, 10:08:00 PM

Actually, when there's no field lieutenant, the watch commander should get the extra pay. It's the watch commander that does the extra work.

Anonymous said...

no contract for 2 years 4 months
no pay raise for 2 years 10 months
keep up the hard work poleece

Anonymous said...

finally a bit of levity after all the foul nasty bitterness as we verbally abuse each of our fellow sgts because ???? we haven't got the intestinal fortitude in our collective rank to pull it together instead of tearing ourselves down.... totally counterproductive my dears. We serve no purpose other than the Daley divide and conquer our unions if we bare our petty opinions and rant about each other. Please sgts young and old regroup, breath deeply, and try to remember we are all in this together. We all want a decent and fair contract. Lets try to get back on point for all of us. Tired of infighting, waste of energy! No woulda,coulda,shoulda

Anonymous said...

did any captains or lieutenants apply for the early retirement benefit

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