Friday, March 09, 2007

ME TOO!

Teachers' residency near its end?
Could this be the opening of the door for every other union in the city to make a push for the repealing of residency? Well contract negotiations will soon be upon us.
Don't look for the city to offer residency as a part of the negotiation process. The key issues will be discipline (BIS), medical policy (for new hires),health care and possibly 6th work day. State law will have to be overturned before residency can even become an issue. Since the teachers are headed in that direction it could become interesting.
"If you want to recruit the best and brightest teachers, why would you put up a roadblock?" said CTU lobbyist Pam Massarsky

Why do teachers seem to think they are the most important people in society? Do you want the best policemen, firemen and paramedics? Of course we do. Why stop there? I certinly want the best engineers that operate the water filtration plants. In fact I want the best in all fields of city service. Her arguement can be used by all the civil service unions.
Are the motives of these pillars to society really out of concern for quality recruiting or are they for personal gratification? Is it to late for a "me too" clause?

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ohhhhh I can't wait!

PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE

Anonymous said...

Let's see if the FOP steps up and fights. We can't let the Teachers Union be tougher than us!

Anonymous said...

The FOP looses more battles than it wins!!!!!

dilligaf said...

Take this for just my mere opinion. One of the requirements to take this job was residency. I'm born and bred here, and besides the political nonsense, on all levels, do not have much of a problem living here. With that disclaimer, I would rather see legislation put into place for all municipal employees of Illinois. If you choose to live (own) in the municipality that you are employed by your property taxes are lower and capped till you die, are fired or move. Add incentives to buy a home, other then the distressed neighborhoods program. That way you can afford to send your kids to private schools. Everyone wins. Stay safe.

Anonymous said...

Residency is nothing more than the leash of political corruption. If I have to explain thaat to you, your drinking to much kool-aid.

Anonymous said...

you are missing the point!
It is not about what you think.
Police gave up the right to strike to pressure management to bargain

IN EXCHANGE for not using a "strike"

we have arbritation

Every other police union has the right to bring the issue of "residency" to the bargaining table.

Unfortunately someone was alseep when daley used his might in the legislature to exclude "municipalities of a million or more" from the right to even arb the issue of residency.

The issue is to change a law that only affects chicago police and denis us the right that every other police union in the state of illinois enjoys

THE RIGHT TO BRING THE ISSUE OF RESIDENCY TO THE TABLE!

WHY WOULD YOU BE AGAINST THAT!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Attend the next FOP meeting 20Mar07 at 1900 hrs and let them know we need the residency law changed downstate like the Teachers Union is already almost done with!

Anonymous said...

Ooooh boyyyyyyy---If there is no residence rule---expect property values to gooooooo way down---so becareful what you wish for

Anonymous said...

Won't happen in our career. maybe the new guys!

Besides I'm happy with my $480 K mortgage!!!

THAT WOULD BE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION OF WHAT NICE SUBURB I WANTED TO LIVE IN!

Anonymous said...

What makes you think property taxes are lower, housing is better, or there are no gangs, drugs, shitheads or rif raff in the burbs? The ghetto has moved everywhere there is section 8 and there is section 8 in most burbs now, even DuPage Co and Naperville.
I agree with dilligaf with lowering the property taxes and keep a cap on it as long as you are employed by and live in the city....this would be more reasonable on the bargainging table.

If they lift the residency rule I hope I have my house sold by then cause it will be worth peanuts.

Anonymous said...

If every policeman sold their home at the same time, there would not be a blip on the real estate market.

Check the numbers

Over 2.8 million residents in Chicago

43% home ownership rate, which means over 1.5 million home owners

Consider for arguments sake that all 12,000 or so of us owned homes, it reflects only about 1% of home owners in Chicago.

This argument is based more in fear mongering than in fact.

SECOND CITY SARGE said...

Anonymous said...
If every policeman sold their home at the same time, there would not be a blip on the real estate market.

Check the numbers

Over 2.8 million residents in Chicago

43% home ownership rate, which means over 1.5 million home owners

Consider for arguments sake that all 12,000 or so of us owned homes, it reflects only about 1% of home owners in Chicago.

This argument is based more in fear mongering than in fact.

You are not accurately looking at the home ownership picture with the statistics you provide.
True the population of Chicago is 2.8 million and again it may be true that the home ownership rate may be 43% but that does not necessarily translate into 1.5 million home owners. For example, my wife and I own our house together, that equals 2 people owning one home, with 3 children who obviously don't count as home owners but are counted in the population. Therefore we have 5 people for one house.
I'm not sure where you obtained your stats but I can only imagine that they refer to housing units owned versus housing units rented or subsidised.
Also when you take into account 8,000 firemen along with 13,000 policemen you are now talking about a potential of 21,000 housing units.
That my friend would have a profound effect on the housing market in light of the fact that clusters of these homeowner live in probably five different parts of the city.

Anonymous said...

I posted at Thu Mar 15, 03:26:00 PM.
I obtained the stats from the census website, quickfacts.census.gov. I conceed that it refers to housing units. On a side note it is a pretty interesting website.

But the point to my argument is that I dont see housing prices plummeting if residency were lifted. Not all city workers own homes and I don't think all city workers would move.

Anonymous said...

Not all police would move from the city look at the number of retirees remain after retirement.

some cops would stay because of ties to the alderman or warde committeeman

and some actually like raising their families in the city and if you do not have children the reasonn to leave would be less

less than 50% of police would actually move anyway

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ooooh boyyyyyyy---If there is no residence rule---expect property values to gooooooo way down---so becareful what you wish for

Tue Mar 13, 04:46:00 PM
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That's the idea. New guys can't afford it now.

Anonymous said...

This argument is based more in fear mongering than in fact.

Thu Mar 15, 03:26:00 PM
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Amen!

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