Wednesday, August 13, 2008

WAUKEGAN SHOOTING

And they wonder why our morale is in the tank? The Tribune reporting of a police involved shooting in Waukegan shows just how Chicago area journalist judge police and the negative light they put us in.
Waukegan police shoot boy, 17, who allegedly hit cop with hammer

Let's get something straight. Any person who commits a crime in Illinois and is 17 years of age or older is an adult. Why is it that the police shot a "boy" but that same "boy" only allegedly hit another policemen with a hammer in the head. Oh! as a matter of fact the officer suffered a skull fracture.
Then the journalist has to find a community activist that wants to stir the shit:
Chris Blank, a community activist critical of the police, worked his way around the crowd, handing people fliers for a Saturday rally in nearby North Chicago to protest police shootings in the area, which he said have targeted blacks, including Lewis.

"It's happening too often. I'd like to see our community organize," said Blank, 46, of Waukegan. "Too often, the police utilize a last resort, rather than the first."

What do you suggest Mr. Blank? Shoot the hammer out of his hand?
(720 ILCS 5/Art. 7 heading)
ARTICLE 7. JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE; EXONERATION


(720 ILCS 5/7‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 7‑1)
Sec. 7‑1. Use of force in defense of person.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.

I think I'll side with 720 ILCS 5/7-1 and not worry about what idiots like you and politically correct writers of Chicago newspapers think.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Fox news went to the honor students high school and interviewed a friend of his who said, "he would never do what the police said he did." They are trying the case for the cameras without even trying to get the full story.

The media has become a divisive tool devoted to two goals:

1) Oppose any morals, standards or conduct that sets the foundation for an orderly, lawful society.

2) Latch on to every opportunity to spur public unrest toward riots and outright attacks on authority figures, law enforcement officers and so on.

Goal #2 creates more interest in media - in other words it sells newspapers and TV news ad time.

But goal #1 ultimately creates a society where the government ultimately takes control of the media, like Russia. In other words, the end of the United States of America.

Any wonder why Obama is the darling "rock star" of the media?

Anonymous said...

I am a resident of waukegan and understand better than any how very hard the job of a police officer in a place like this can be. So I just have one simple question... ever heard of a tazer? Here's another.. aren't police trained to defend us? So someone please explain to me what my town and the world has come to when a trained police officer cannot protect himself from a 17 year old student (see i said student not boy.. incredibly accurate and still very sad) without opening fire?

Anonymous said...

I know you probably won't publish that either but sir i don't want people to see or hear. I'm sick of trying to fight ignorance because it will never go away. I just want an answer. please.

Anonymous said...

Great job boys!!! Another piece of crap off the streets!!

Anonymous said...

C'mon...don't you guys get tired of attaching Obama's name to everything? Do you think it's really helping McCain at this point? I didn't think so either.

Anonymous said...

Some people, and they all seem to share one common attribute, will not accept responsibility for what has occurred, even when the evidence is overwhelming.

Cases in point:

Soto was killed by police in a cover-up. (Truth--Two pieces of shit from when the neighborhood was totally shitty tried to rob someone.)

The kid in Waukegan should not have been shot. (Truth--the kid hit the cop with a hammer, fracturing his skull.)

There are many others too numerous to list.

Anonymous said...

To Mr Waukegan,

First of all, not all Officers carry tasers, at least in Chicago that is, I don't know about Waukegan. Secondly, by law, deadly force will be met with deadly force. A strike to the head with the hammer can cause death or great bodily harm...therefore, deadly force is authorized by law.

I have questions as well. Lets see, why did he hit the officer with a hammer? A normal, law abiding citizen would not ever consider doing this. It is evident that this offender had no respect for his own Mother (he would not listen to her, therefore forcing her to call police to control her own children)and he had no respect for authority.
Good riddance I say.
Did that answer your question?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I am a resident of waukegan and understand better than any how very hard the job of a police officer in a place like this can be. So I just have one simple question... ever heard of a tazer? Here's another.. aren't police trained to defend us? So someone please explain to me what my town and the world has come to when a trained police officer cannot protect himself from a 17 year old student (see i said student not boy.. incredibly accurate and still very sad) without opening fire?

Thu Aug 14, 12:23:00 PM

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I CANT SPEAK FOR WAUKEGAN BUT HERE IN CHICAGO NOT EVERYONE CARRIES A TAZER, JUST SUPERVISORS. ALSO I DO NOT KNOW THE SIZE OF THE 17 YR OLD IN QUESTION BUT A KNOW A LOT WHO ARE VERY LARGE FOR THIER AGE. ALSO I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN ATTACKED WITH A WEAPON BUT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF TIME TO REACT. A HAMMER BEING STRUCK OVER SOMEONES HEAD CAN CAUSE GREAT BODILY HARM OR DEATH. A TAZER IS NOT ALWAYS EFFECTIVE DEPENDING ON THE PERSONS STATE OR ANY DRUGS THEY MAY BE ON. THE 17YR OLD WAS USING A DEADLY WEAPON, CAUSED HARM AND THE OFFICER ACTED APPROPRAIATLY WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF DEADLY FORCE.
I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW YOU MAY FEEL THE WAY YOU DO BUT IN REAL LIFE THINGS LIKE TAZERS DO NOT ALWAYS WORK LIKE THEY DO ON TV.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I am a resident of waukegan and understand better than any how very hard the job of a police officer in a place like this can be. So I just have one simple question... ever heard of a tazer? Here's another.. aren't police trained to defend us? So someone please explain to me what my town and the world has come to when a trained police officer cannot protect himself from a 17 year old student (see i said student not boy.. incredibly accurate and still very sad) without opening fire?

Thu Aug 14, 12:23:00 PM

What has your town and the world come to when a mother calls the police because she's afraid her sons will kill one another, and when the police show up, they are struck in the head with a hammer?

You think you understand the job of a police officer? How? When have you done the job? Been shit on, kicked, spit on, hit with fists, bricks, bottles? Ever had someone bite you so hard the teeth cracked the bone? When's the last time someone called you to come save them from a drunk husband or a cracked-up roommate? Ever pull some drunk's bloody head out of a smashed windshield and then stood over the bodies of the two teenage girls he just killed?

Then when shift ends, go home and read about morons like you who second guess and whine about Tasers (no, I never heard of a "tazer" - what's that?) I don't know about Waukegan, dummy, but in CPD street cops aren't issued Tasers. Jesse and Al and Richie don't think they're needed. They'd rather cops just shoot first and get sued later.

I'm sure baby's momma will enter the ghetto lottery and sue the city in hopes of getting some money, which is all she wants anyway. She sure didn't seem too broken up about losing her shithead of a son.

Clowns like you watch too much TV. You think cops are Hollywood heroes who shoot hammers out of a guy's hand, whip his ass with Kung Fu, then sit back and agonize because he had to hurt some innocent little schoolboy.

The problem with America today is we have so many pussies like you who never had to stand up and fight for anything. And never will.

Here's what's accurate and sad, you worthless, simpering asshole: All you Monday morning quarterbacks who think you get all the facts from the media.

Anonymous said...

C'mon...don't you guys get tired of attaching Obama's name to everything? Do you think it's really helping McCain at this point? I didn't think so either.

Fri Aug 15, 05:49:00 AM

I guess it's okay only if the media does it.

And is it helping McCain? You bet, brother. People are getting sick of seeing your precious little celebrity "rock star" in the headlines. They're finally starting to ask what's so great about him and they're finding out - absolutely nothing. (Gotta love those ears, though, he looks like a drawing of Ross Perot colored with a crayon.)

Anonymous said...

Here's a little test. I'm going to give you a gun. Now I'm going to try and hit you on the head with a hammer and kill you. What will you do? The answers are:

A). Die with a closed casket

B). Defend yourself with a better weapon.

What did you chose?

Anonymous said...

Barack Obama Bin-Laden says...

"...don't you ever get tired of attaching Obama's name to everything..."

Thank you for defending me, infidel. These people that make fun my ears or ridicule me for getting pedicures will be among the first to feel the wrath of Allah when I accept my coronation as Califate of the newly formed Islamic States of America.

Change you better believe in.

Friend of the family said...

Ok for one the mom called the police because she was recently released from the hospital after being in a coma and having a stroke.

For two, and I got this from a family member, the officer was never even struck/attacked/touched with the hammer!

And for three I always thought people were generally good, but after reading all your comments about this situation, I realize that most of you people are as evil as evil comes. You dont even know the true story of what happened because no one was there except for the deceased, his mother and brother, and the two murderers! They killed that boy in cold blood, and could care less that his mother,and brother were standing there to watch the whole ordeal! How could you people actually believe that shooting a 17 year old boy six times, and he is not carrying a gun could possibly be following protocal??? I know this family and they are good people! This boy did not deserve to die before he even had a chance to live his life! Those killers are going to go on to kill another day, but this family is forever broken because of this heinous act!!!! You people should be ashamed of yourselves for the horrible things you let come out of your mouthes, and pray to God that you get a chance to make your peace before your time is up!!!! The Lord said "Thou shalt not kill", and I dont remember reading anywhere "Except if youre a cop!!!"

SECOND CITY SARGE said...

Ok for one the mom called the police because she was recently released from the hospital after being in a coma and having a stroke.

Obviously her two sons could give two shits because if they had momma wouldn't have needed to call the police in the first place.

For two, and I got this from a family member, the officer was never even struck/attacked/touched with the hammer!


Hmmmm! A family member told you that. Well then it must be credible. Keep this in mind, two policemen would say otherwise along with paramedics and ER staff at the hospital the officer was treated at. I'm sure the "officer fractured his own skull" conspiracies will be thrown out there.

You dont even know the true story of what happened because no one was there except for the deceased, his mother and brother, and the two murderers!

Somehow you seem to know the true story despite the fact that you too weren't there.

What amazes me is that with the hundreds of thousands of calls we field in a year that such a small number result in deadly force. Contrary to your opinion that these "murders" will kill again I don't know of a police officer that wants to be involved in a shooting. You go ahead and advocate for that family and I'll advocate for the police.

Anonymous said...

Friend of the family said...
Ok for one the mom called the police because she was recently released from the hospital after being in a coma and having a stroke.

For two, and I got this from a family member, the officer was never even struck/attacked/touched with the hammer!

Fri Aug 22, 01:19:00 PM

You didn't say there was no hammer involved. You said "with the hammer." Therefore you admit the hammer was present. You have two officers in a fight for their lives with two young men. Their ages are not a factor. Only the deadly intention.

You are one stupid moron. Momma did not call the police because she just got out of a coma and had a stroke. She called the po-lice because her babies was trying to murder each other. And she was in good enough shape to jump out in front of the cameras.

By the way, where's baby daddy in all this? You people have such a fucked-up way of life; you refuse to take responsibility for anything you do. It's always someone else's fault. Go to school, get a J-O-B, and work hard. Lay off the crack, the booze and the hoes, and you might have a shot at a decent life!

Anonymous said...

I am a resident of waukegan and understand better than any how very hard the job of a police officer in a place like this can be.
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Obviously not. On both counts. Resident of Waukegan? Not likely. This reeks of being a troll AND obviously you do not understand, as you will prove shortly with your own words.
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So I just have one simple question... ever heard of a tazer?
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Talking down to us. Nice opening statement.
What is your training and experience with a Taser? If you got all of it from TV/movies you cannot speak to its proper application, even if one was even at the scene. Like it has been said, not every cop has one on him.
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Here's another.. aren't police trained to defend us?
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Correct. Please note the police themselves are included in "us". If you believe they should be slaughtered without putting up defense, you are wrong.
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So someone please explain to me what my town and the world has come to when a trained police officer cannot protect himself from a 17 year old student (see i said student not boy.. incredibly accurate and still very sad) without opening fire?
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What the world is comming to is that 17 year olds not only assault police officers with deadly force, and and then some people spring forward to defend them, disregarding the facts.
I know of a suburban cop who was killed by a 14 year old. Drop by the National Police Officers Memorial website and check how many "students" can and do arm themselves and kill police. If you arm yourself and demonstrate a willingness to use a weapon --like say, fracturing someone's skull with a hammer -- regardless of your age, you have made a very bad decision. Deadly force = deadly force.
Sad? Very sad. Sad that this kid chose that path, but it could have been worse. He could have killed the officer, or an innocent civilian. As it is only the attacker reaped the results of his actions.

Anonymous said...

I am a resident of waukegan and understand better than any how very hard the job of a police officer in a place like this can be. So I just have one simple question... ever heard of a tazer? Here's another.. aren't police trained to defend us? So someone please explain to me what my town and the world has come to when a trained police officer cannot protect himself from a 17 year old student (see i said student not boy.. incredibly accurate and still very sad) without opening fire?

Thu Aug 14, 12:23:00 PM

hey 12:23..you are the fucking problem! WHY DONT YOU GET OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ARMCHAIR AND PUT ON A GUNBELT AND A VEST AND DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE 17 YEAR OLD ANIMALS..! THERE I SAID IT..AT 17 HES A FUCKING ADULT, AND IM SURE THE COPPER TOLD HIM TO PUT DOWN THE HAMMER SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE HE STRUCK THE COP WITH IT! HEY..IF YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID ENOUGH TO BRING A HAMMER TO A GUN FIGHT AND USE IT..WELL SUCKS TO BE YOU. AND ABOUT THE TASER..MAYBE THEY DIDNT HAVE ONE JAGBALLS..SO GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO TO CITY HALL AND TELL YOUR ALDERCREATURES TO BUY THEM FOR THE PD!AND AS FOR BEING TRAINED TO DEFEND YOU..WE ARE ASSHOLE..HE SHOT AND KILLED THE DUMB FUCK..ERR HONOR STUDENT, GREAT JOB! HE ARE PAID TO DEFEND, NOT FIGHT, I WE WANTED TO BE BOXERS WE WOULDNT BE COPS ASSHOLE. SO NEXT TIME U SEE ONE OF YOUR COPPERS IN A STORE, SHAKE HIS OR HER HAND AND SAY THANKS, THEN WALK AWAY ASSHOLE!

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