Tuesday, January 23, 2007

TYPICAL

Why after every police shooting we hear from the "experts" about the short comings of the involved officers? Whether it be from the blowhard in roll call or from people who rant on SCC somebody always has to critique the actions of the involved.
Anonymous said...
"Two officers fired several shots at the man, hitting him once in the shoulder". TWO OFFICERS...SEVERAL SHOTS...ONCE IN THE SHOULDER...all I can say is WOW!!! This had to be at close range if it all happen at the desk. No wonder the department is offering 100 free rounds to practice.

1/22/2007 10:06:03 PM

The above comment was found on the SCC site in response to the shooting in 003 yesterday. This guy is giving his expert opinion based on what he read in the newspaper. Whats close range? Two feet, three feet maybe as far as five feet? Maybe the officer who fired and struck the offender was 30 feet away. The desk area in 007 or 009 would be tight quarters but its wide open in 003. Quantify "several", more than 3?. How do guys guys pass judgement when all they have is a short quote in the newspaper. Why bother sending the dicks out? We have coppers who know all the answers. The above comment was probably offered by someone who was never involved in a police shooting.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

The "asspucker factor" when you see that piece coming out does tend to throw your shots off. Right, written by a jagoff that never was in a shooting.

Anonymous said...

Good shoot, glad all the P.O.'s are O.K.
Off topic:

This is the only good thing I have seen written about the idiotic new towing a squad car policy. I am actually a firm believer in parking legally and not blocking the street if you can help it, but there are ties that you need to and that is just too frigging bad. I don't remeber ever seeing aything in any order or in any contract for any rank which states that there are to be monitary penalties for anything. God, I hope I do well on the NEXT Lt.'s test so I can have a real union leader....
Tows of Department Vehicles
On 19 January 2007 a fax message was sent to all units from First Deputy Starks regarding the towing of illegally parked Department Vehicles, both marked and un marked. It states that all vehicles must be parked legally and must be prepared to justify their actions should they be parked illegally. Under no circumstances are department vehicles to be parked in Handicapped spaces or on a fire hydrant. It goes on to state that The Department of Streets and Sanitation will notify Operations Command when they find a vehicle. The on duty ADS will be notified who will determine the status of the illegally parked department vehicle.

When a department vehicle is towed the operator will be held responsible for the citation, towing and other costs associated with the tow. In addition the operator of the vehicle may face disciplinary measures.
Taken from the Lt.'s association web site ver batim:

"We at the Chicago Police Lieutenants Association would like to point out that there is no part of our contract that allows for the City of Chicago or Chicago Police Department to levy cash penalties against a Lieutenant. In addition no where in the General Orders is there mention of cash penalties for discipline. If the City of Chicago wishes to tow vehicles it owns that is fine with us and if they wish to levy a cash penalty perhaps they will need to go after the registered owner of the vehicle."

Anonymous said...

The officer closest to the bad guy missed (1 shot). The officer furthest away fired twice, striking the offender once. 1 strike out of 3 rounds wasn't bad, and is higher than the average number of hits in an actual shooting. The main thing is, no coppers got hurt, and the fool who decided to enter our house brandishing a handgun was taken down quickly, before he could have hurt anyone. Thanks to all involved, and of course, God bless.

Have it Better Than Most (I guess) said...

SCS.....
I agree with you, screrw all the Monday morning quarterbacking.....The coppers are all ok and that's the main thing....Would it have been nice if the jagoff met his end, absolutely, but's let's not forget what the other scenario could have been.... We could have been putting the dress blues on for a couple officers in a worse case scenario....Thank God they are OK...

Anonymous said...

We need to remember that these blogs are public and that we are feeding the negative perception the public has of the police. We are not goofs, imbeciles, or crooks but after reading many of the negative comments on SCC one wonders.

Anonymous said...

I agree, why talk s#$t so fast before you know what you are talking about. Great job by D.P., he is a stand up guy and good copper.

Anonymous said...

why are our stations so unprotected in the first place is the major thing that everyone should be asking, but no one is. go to any place else but chicago and their stations are secure(go to any other station outside of chicago and see what i mean). why are we the murder capital of america and any one can walk in with what ever and complain and bitch and put the entire buiding in jeopardy. god forbid someone walk in with body amour and an automatic weapon (ie los angelas bank style). every body in the building is dead period.....my particular station would be decimated as would any other station in the city.....watch who comes in and out. we are not safe... even in our on home away from home...

Anonymous said...

I went to that retarded in-service training for sgts. on Monday, the day the shooting occurred. A few hours before the shooting a sgt. brought up this very issue with Dep. Supt. Williams. He spoke the usual b.s. dept. line about what sort of message it would send to the public about having a police station seem like a fortress. He also mentioned that he worked at I.A D. for 13 years. It shows. I don't know if he was merely toeing the company line or if he really believes the crap he said about a couple of different subjects. The downward spiral continues.

Anonymous said...

the reason our stations are so open is because coppers demand it that way. I'm sure anyone who remembers the old 22nd district station remembers that when the department pu a cipher lock on the back door the police who couldnt remember the number disabled it same with the door to the basement in 7 in the 80s

Pat Hickey said...

Sarge,

'Hard-hitting' journalists are combing police sites for targets of opportunity. These blogsites can do the work of ten pencil-neck geeks trying to kop a Pulitzer.

They'll pick at a scab to see what flows to them. Omerta ain't such a bad thing. Be careful out there!

BTW - thanks for all you great men and women do for us civilians.

Anonymous said...

The reason the bad guy didn't get shot more is he got HIT and fell to the ground and was disarmed. Lot of armchair quarterbacks out there.

Anonymous said...

Didnt that happen in the Terminator?

Anonymous said...

run it sgt

Anonymous said...

I am not going to rip those that had to fire those shots. They did what they did and did well. They survived, which is excellent.

I do advocate that we, as a whole, need more trigger time at the range. When we come on the job, we all fired at least 1500 rounds to achieve a skill level. Shooting is a muscle memory function. Is there any swingin' dick out here that actually believes that we can maintain that level of proficiency with our service revolvers, much less with our snubbies, on 30 freakin' rounds a year out of our service revolvers. How many of us even reach into our deep pockets and buy a box of ammo every year and at least shoot an additional 50 rounds. How many of us have even fired a single round (not shot at street lights off duty..... LOL) out of our snubbies? How many of us would be capable of passing our ridiculously simple qualification course with our snubbies? Remember, this is the gun that we not only entrust our lives, but the lives of our wives, children, and grandchildren. We carry a 5 shot snubbie that has less than 10 rounds fired in it for a function test, no extra ammo, no radio or backup, with no practice. That, my Brothers and Sisters, is a recipe for disaster.


Please, get up off your wallets, buy some ammo (the Department will even give you cheap SOB's 100 rounds if you won't pry your wallets open), go to the range and practice with whatever you are going to carry.



What is your life, and the lives of your loved ones worth? The cost of 2 boxes of ammo is less than an afternoon's toot at the gin mill.


What are your priorities?


Sgt. B. Rapa

20th District

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